angiestegall Posted July 13, 2008 Share Posted July 13, 2008 New to digital scrapbooking and enjoying reading everyone's post. I have learned alot and just purchased Ro's Secret for PSE 6 so I can learn. I am a traditional paper scrapbooker and was looking to enhance photos and make some mattes etc but the more I read, the more I am interested in the preprinting of books online. I tried having my 12x12 pages printed out at costo about a year or so ago and it cost almost $4 a page so I decided not to go that route but some of the sites boost about pages for less than a $1!! I cant print at home for that price. Before I get into making decisions and pages, here are my questions: -What size layouts work best for the books. I know I have options but what are most scrapbookers using for their general pagebooks. -Do these books open flat or are they bound so tight that the pages have to viewed with the 'hump' in the middle? -Where do you find most of the paper, pages, embellishments etc. I see there are sellers on this site but it seems expensive to purchase alot of them at once. Any other less expensive options. -Do you miss traditional scrapbooking? Thank you all in advance! Angie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goog Posted July 13, 2008 Share Posted July 13, 2008 Hi, Angie! I can only speak for myself, but I don't like LARGE scrapbooks. Since I have dyslexia, my eyes are easily overwhelmed - I have a small computer screen for the same purpose - so I print 8.5x8.5 or smaller. I do NOT miss traditional scrapping AT ALL. I am technically a hyrbid scrapper, I guess, because I occasionally make small albums to go in Altoids tins, put on coasters, etc. I also occasionally add stickers or things to my digital layouts for a bit of dimension. I print all my layouts/pages at home on an HP D7300 series printer. I upload them to myspace for far away family and friends to view. Whenever I have a question about anything to do with DLing, layouts, or PSE I come here to scrapgirls and either search for the answer or ask for the answer and I always get it. Ariana Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justpattyanne Posted July 13, 2008 Share Posted July 13, 2008 I can't help you out with the out-sourcing of bound books. I have a wide format printer (Epson Photo Stylus 2200) and can go up to 13" wide. For myself, I print all 12x12. For MOST gift albums, I print 8x8 - or smaller tag style. I also LOVE the altoid tin albums, Amanda Sok has 2 great 8 page album templates for the tins! I began digi-scrapping when I had my little girl. It was just too hard to escape into my craft room with or without her. So I began the digi-route. It was always with the intention that I would go back to traditional scrapping. Now my DD is 6, I still have a HUGE wealth of scrapping supplies and tools and an entire room that has become something of a ghost town. I haven't got the gumption to purge all that stuff... yet. I used to think that the digi-pages would be too "flat" for me. Now, because of all the awesome, realistic tears, curls, bumpy embelli's and 3-d digi-supplies, it's the paper pages that look so flat, bland and boring!!!! Welcome to Scrap Girls. You've found a great new home for your great new obsession. This place is a wealth of information and full of the most helpful, patient, inspiring and friendly bunch of ladies in cyber-space. So, come on in and make yourself at home! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angiestegall Posted July 13, 2008 Author Share Posted July 13, 2008 Hi, Angie! I can only speak for myself, but I don't like LARGE scrapbooks. Since I have dyslexia, my eyes are easily overwhelmed - I have a small computer screen for the same purpose - so I print 8.5x8.5 or smaller. I do NOT miss traditional scrapping AT ALL. I am technically a hyrbid scrapper, I guess, because I occasionally make small albums to go in Altoids tins, put on coasters, etc. I also occasionally add stickers or things to my digital layouts for a bit of dimension. I print all my layouts/pages at home on an HP D7300 series printer. I upload them to myspace for far away family and friends to view. Whenever I have a question about anything to do with DLing, layouts, or PSE I come here to scrapgirls and either search for the answer or ask for the answer and I always get it. Ariana Ariana, Not sure if this is the way to respond or not... but what is an 'Altoid' tin or add to coasters? angie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angiestegall Posted July 13, 2008 Author Share Posted July 13, 2008 I can't help you out with the out-sourcing of bound books. I have a wide format printer (Epson Photo Stylus 2200) and can go up to 13" wide. For myself, I print all 12x12. For MOST gift albums, I print 8x8 - or smaller tag style. I also LOVE the altoid tin albums, Amanda Sok has 2 great 8 page album templates for the tins! I began digi-scrapping when I had my little girl. It was just too hard to escape into my craft room with or without her. So I began the digi-route. It was always with the intention that I would go back to traditional scrapping. Now my DD is 6, I still have a HUGE wealth of scrapping supplies and tools and an entire room that has become something of a ghost town. I haven't got the gumption to purge all that stuff... yet. I used to think that the digi-pages would be too "flat" for me. Now, because of all the awesome, realistic tears, curls, bumpy embelli's and 3-d digi-supplies, it's the paper pages that look so flat, bland and boring!!!! Welcome to Scrap Girls. You've found a great new home for your great new obsession. This place is a wealth of information and full of the most helpful, patient, inspiring and friendly bunch of ladies in cyber-space. So, come on in and make yourself at home! Both responses have mentioned altoid albums so I am asking further about that but also "bumpy embelli" or 3 digi supplies. Should I go to a gallery and look at some of those if they are on here. Are they on your site? Angie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaryJo Posted July 13, 2008 Share Posted July 13, 2008 Hi Angie and Welcome to Scrap Girls ! I just have fallen in love with the 8x8 size! Don't ask me why and then my second choice is the 4x6in size. It took me awhile to get the hang of the 4x6 but when I did , I really enjoy doing the smaller LO's they are quick and so easy. HTH and Welcome again Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarah in VA Posted July 13, 2008 Share Posted July 13, 2008 Hi Angie! Welcome to Scrap Girls. In answer to your question on sizes, you will likely get as many different answers as people who respond to your post! We are all different and like different albums for different projects. Variety! Myself, I prefer the 8 x 8 size because I can print them out at home. I was never a traditional paper scrapper, so maybe that's why I don't really have any desire to do anything larger - oh, except for an occasional 8.5 x 11. And like MaryJo, I'm getting to really like the little 4 x 6 layouts. In answer to your other question, an Altoid tin is the little tin container that the Altoid mints are packaged in. Some examples can be found in the boutique, here And in the gallery, here. Hope this helps! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SandiC. Posted July 14, 2008 Share Posted July 14, 2008 Hi Angie. Like you I was a traditional scrapper first. I started making 8X8 LOs so i could print them at home and just love them. They fit so nicely on the bookshelves, they are easier for the little ones to look at, and the albums are a little less expensive too. I've never had a bound book made so can't help you there. I am also making a lot of 4x6 stuff lately. They make great gifts. I'm working on one now for my grandaughter, with pics from her championship softball season. Go Chili Peppers! They smaller ones go togerther so fast. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
knudl Posted July 14, 2008 Share Posted July 14, 2008 I like Viovio.com for printing my books. I scrap in tons of different sizes. Right now I'm making an album for 2007 in 8.5x11 (portrait), and parents albums/formal albums for my wedding in 8x10 and 10x13 landscape (through Blurb). I find the softcover books lay flat, and the hardcover books have a little more of a "hump". If you want perfectly flat pages, you could do a wire bound book (Viovio makes them in 12.5x10 or 14x11 landscape) Viovio makes square albums in 3.5", 5" 8.5", 10", and 12". With the 3 smaller sizes, you even design the entire cover! They also print 12x12 loose pages (min 24 at a time) for $0.86 for one-sided. You could put the loose pages in an album with the hinged page protectors to get them to lay perfectly flat. When people are talking about 3-d digi elements and stuff making the pages not "flat" they mean that the good embellishments are designed to look like they are sitting on your page, rather than being "flat", they are "3-D". Look through the gallery for examples like this one where the flowers and leaves look like they've been glued on Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MazG Posted July 14, 2008 Share Posted July 14, 2008 New to digital scrapbooking and enjoying reading everyone's post. I have learned alot and just purchased Ro's Secret for PSE 6 so I can learn. I am a traditional paper scrapbooker and was looking to enhance photos and make some mattes etc but the more I read, the more I am interested in the preprinting of books online. I tried having my 12x12 pages printed out at costo about a year or so ago and it cost almost $4 a page so I decided not to go that route but some of the sites boost about pages for less than a $1!! I cant print at home for that price. Before I get into making decisions and pages, here are my questions:-What size layouts work best for the books. I know I have options but what are most scrapbookers using for their general pagebooks. -Do these books open flat or are they bound so tight that the pages have to viewed with the 'hump' in the middle? -Where do you find most of the paper, pages, embellishments etc. I see there are sellers on this site but it seems expensive to purchase alot of them at once. Any other less expensive options. -Do you miss traditional scrapbooking? Thank you all in advance! Angie Hi Angie I'd create the layouts in 12x12 regardless of the size you end up printing. You can always resize down but it is much harder to resize up without loss of quality. Generally I print 12x12 on my own printer or through Costco. Costco is cheaper if you use their online site to upload (in Canada it's 2.99 for a 12x18 which lets you print 1 12x12 plus 3 4x6 photos, or 1 12x12 plus 2 6x6 - it should be cheaper in the US). As I have several 8.5x8.5 albums by K&Co, I often print in that size also on 8.5x11 paper just trimming the top and bottom. Most online book publishing sites have an 8x8 option in addition to the 12x12 option. This is probably the most popular size for books as it is affordable and not too small to read (unlike a 6x6). The books open as flat as any hardbound coffee table style book. They usually show a margin in their software where the binding will go so you don't go into that space when creating the book. One thing to watch for is whether they are stitched vs. glued. Glued books (usually the cheaper ones) will eventually fall apart, especially if you leave it in the sun as the glue will melt. Stitched is the better option especially as we usually want our scrapbooks to last. The book sites that let you use their software to build the books, generally come with their own kits. Alternatively you can purchase kits from a site like this one (although I'd wait for the sales) to build your own layouts using Elements/Photoshop or something. I find that I get a lot more layouts done now that I'm digital and the layouts generally contain much more journaling than my paper layouts ever did. To satifsy my need to touch paper, I make mini books and greetings cards, so no I don't miss traditional scrapbooking. I also have quite a bit of paper supplies left so I do make the odd paper 12x12 page here and there. I haven't really done much hybrid scrapbooking but that is another option if you want to do a bit of both. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkRiders Posted July 14, 2008 Share Posted July 14, 2008 I've only ever done one album in a traditionaly way it was a 8.5 x 11 album and I'm not happy with it at all lol. I always wanted to get into paper scrapping but with apartment living we've just never had the space for it. I love the idea that when i want to scrap i can just open up my photoshop, open up my folder with my goodies and my folder with my pictures and away i go and when i'm done i just close all the folders, no mess to put away. I worked in a home with a traditional scrapper, she owned a day care, and the kids were always getting in her stuff. That's the last thing I'd want over here. When I first started out buying supplies I found the monthly Scrap club that's on the first of the month was the way to go. For about $10 you get oodles of stuff. Of course you add bits here and there but in reality I still find digi scrapping to be way cheaper then paper scrapping. You don't need to buy all the tools like paper cutters and trimers etc. Have you downloaded the free refresh kit? It can be found here SG Refresh Collection! Also Scrapgirls has freebies every day of the week! Believe me they quickly add up! I'm affraid I can't be too much help with size though. I scrap mostly in 4x6. I do the occasional 12x12 which i resize to 8x8 and print from home. We just don't have any options for printing where I'm from. I keep the 12x12's in hope that one day i'll have enough done to get an album printed however in the mean time the 4x6's are perfect for me. Easy to print and cheap ! Welcome to Scrapgirls I know you'll love it here. They are all so friendly around here and quick on the draw when it comes to needing help Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wags Posted August 6, 2008 Share Posted August 6, 2008 I would definitely recommend scrapping in 12x12 @ 300dpi. As someone else noted it is easy to downsize - much harder to upsize without loss of quality. My favorite size is Viovio's 8.5x8.5. I get them done in both hard and soft covers - the price and size is just perfect for me. Viovio has an instruction page on how to create layouts that look good in bound books. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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