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Need Help With Realistic Stamping Shadow Tuts getting so frustrated

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Posted 16 January 2011 - 05:06 PM

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someone answereed by other email mb with post to this tuts..it seems easy to follow but it isnt working...it is cs ..and i have cs 5 so i am thinking things have changed...can any one figure this out for me... thanksAttached File  ScreenHunter_01 Jan. 16 17.04.jpg (201K)
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this screen shot will show you my lo ( also in the journaling gallery ) and the layers... it is just not working to do ctrl alt click to make the subtraction as descirbed
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Posted 16 January 2011 - 06:36 PM

I don't know if this is the problem, but in the tutorial, the CLICK on the layer UNDERneath the selection is mentioned after the subtraction, rather than before. It would be easy to overlook this step. Does this help?
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Posted 16 January 2011 - 07:21 PM

Oh Bobbie! This is one of my favorite tutorials!

I had trouble getting the selection part to make sense to me when I was first learning too. Let me see if I can reword it a bit.

First, make sure the layer with your text (stamping) is selected.

Then, hold down your Ctrl key and Click on your text's thumbnail. You should see marching ants around your text at this point.

Then, look at your layout. Find the item that looks like it's directly under your text. Find its corresponding layer in your Layers Palette.

Holding down your Ctrl and Alt keys at the same time, Click on that layer's thumbnail. This will make the marching ants go away from this layer, but stay on the rest of your text.

Then you should be able to use your arrow keys and move your text around.

If you do get confused (as I do!), try holding down combinations of the Ctrl, Alt, and Shift keys and hover over the layer thumbnails. Your mouse cursor will turn into a hand, and you will see a tiny box next to it. The box will either be empty or have a plus or minus sign in it, showing you what that combination of keys will do to your selection.

HTH, and if it doesn't, please let us know!
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Posted 16 January 2011 - 07:25 PM

Wowsers, Heidi! Off to try it out now.

I still see a shortcut e-book in your future (wishful thinking? LOL)
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Posted 16 January 2011 - 07:42 PM

Thanks Heidi. I hope this helps me I am at dd2 apt for dinner and when I get home or tomorrow i will try it again. I really wish I could try it right now I really appreciatenyour patience

If u look at my lo I will tastier the type then do the direct selection on that and then the alphas are the letters under. There r two different alphas should I merge the layers ?
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Posted 16 January 2011 - 07:51 PM

Bobbie, you shouldn't need to merge your alpha layers. Just do the Ctrl+Alt and then click on each of the alpha layers.

Dot - a shortcut e-Book? Um, wow! I'll have to give that one a thought. ;)

Have fun!
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Posted 16 January 2011 - 08:19 PM

View PostHeidiD, on 16 January 2011 - 07:51 PM, said:

Bobbie, you shouldn't need to merge your alpha layers. Just do the Ctrl+Alt and then click on each of the alpha layers.

Dot - a shortcut e-Book? Um, wow! I'll have to give that one a thought. ;)

Have fun!


Oh, please do! I mentioned it in a Status post after your really, really great tutorial.... you must have missed it. I would LOVE a shortcut book from a Scrap Girls perspective. They always make so much more sense (to me) than the usual Adobe books.
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Posted 16 January 2011 - 08:28 PM

I think I will be playing with this too!
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Posted 16 January 2011 - 10:01 PM

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thanks heidi your directions really helped...i think what i was missing was the alt click on the thumbnail of the layer ( not on the layer) but staying on the text/stamp layer...your directions were great...now i need to write them down and save so i can remember how to do it..thanks
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Posted 17 January 2011 - 01:29 AM

Bobbie! I'm so glad it worked! Like I mentioned, I needed to play with that tutorial a few times before getting it right myself, and I still have to play around to remember how to do it, but it's a great look! :)

So glad you got it to work; the new version looks awesome!
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Posted 18 January 2011 - 07:01 PM

View PostHeidiD, on 16 January 2011 - 07:21 PM, said:

Oh Bobbie! This is one of my favorite tutorials!

I had trouble getting the selection part to make sense to me when I was first learning too. Let me see if I can reword it a bit.

First, make sure the layer with your text (stamping) is selected.

Then, hold down your Ctrl key and Click on your text's thumbnail. You should see marching ants around your text at this point.

Then, look at your layout. Find the item that looks like it's directly under your text. Find its corresponding layer in your Layers Palette.

Holding down your Ctrl and Alt keys at the same time, Click on that layer's thumbnail. This will make the marching ants go away from this layer, but stay on the rest of your text.

Then you should be able to use your arrow keys and move your text around.

If you do get confused (as I do!), try holding down combinations of the Ctrl, Alt, and Shift keys and hover over the layer thumbnails. Your mouse cursor will turn into a hand, and you will see a tiny box next to it. The box will either be empty or have a plus or minus sign in it, showing you what that combination of keys will do to your selection.

HTH, and if it doesn't, please let us know!



Bobbie was kind enough to help me with a LO I posted today and I tried this technique and am AMAZED at how well it works. AMAZED!

Two questions........... how much do you offset your text? 1-2 pixels? And, the tiny box with the plus or minus....... I see it, but am unclear on what exactly it is "showing" me. It is going to be, say, adding to or taking away from that layer?

When using the technique I was surprised that the underneath layer I needed to choose was a subtle, SS Paper template. I kept going for the BG Paper layer. Interesting!

This is so fun! Thanks so much, Heidi and Ariadna for the technique and Bobbie for asking the question!
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Posted 18 January 2011 - 07:09 PM

I would love a ebook on short cuts for scrapping.
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Posted 18 January 2011 - 07:50 PM

View PostPolkaDot, on 18 January 2011 - 07:01 PM, said:

View PostHeidiD, on 16 January 2011 - 07:21 PM, said:

Oh Bobbie! This is one of my favorite tutorials!

I had trouble getting the selection part to make sense to me when I was first learning too. Let me see if I can reword it a bit.

First, make sure the layer with your text (stamping) is selected.

Then, hold down your Ctrl key and Click on your text's thumbnail. You should see marching ants around your text at this point.

Then, look at your layout. Find the item that looks like it's directly under your text. Find its corresponding layer in your Layers Palette.

Holding down your Ctrl and Alt keys at the same time, Click on that layer's thumbnail. This will make the marching ants go away from this layer, but stay on the rest of your text.

Then you should be able to use your arrow keys and move your text around.

If you do get confused (as I do!), try holding down combinations of the Ctrl, Alt, and Shift keys and hover over the layer thumbnails. Your mouse cursor will turn into a hand, and you will see a tiny box next to it. The box will either be empty or have a plus or minus sign in it, showing you what that combination of keys will do to your selection.

HTH, and if it doesn't, please let us know!



Bobbie was kind enough to help me with a LO I posted today and I tried this technique and am AMAZED at how well it works. AMAZED!

Two questions........... how much do you offset your text? 1-2 pixels? And, the tiny box with the plus or minus....... I see it, but am unclear on what exactly it is "showing" me. It is going to be, say, adding to or taking away from that layer?

When using the technique I was surprised that the underneath layer I needed to choose was a subtle, SS Paper template. I kept going for the BG Paper layer. Interesting!

This is so fun! Thanks so much, Heidi and Ariadna for the technique and Bobbie for asking the question!


I think I answered my own questions.... looks like the pixel amount "just depends" on the layer. Also, I figured out the + and - boxes- WONDERFUL info, Heidi! I never knew that!

Now I have two more questions which I can't figure out based on this LO.

1. I have had to rasterize the type and merge the layers in order to be able to select them for this technique. I must be missing something?

2. I selected the font (in this case, the title work "is laying,") by CTRL+Click on the font layer thumbnail of this LO. I need to "move" it on what turned out to be TWO layers, the deckled photo border below and the "N" in the word SNOW above. I CTRL+clicked on both layer thumbnails (photo and N) but it looked as if it only moved on the photo layer (which I had chosen first.) When I tried to use the technique on the "N" after using it on the photo edge, it looked as if it moved the edge on the photo edge too much. Looking at it again, maybe it did actually allow me to move on two layer at one time.

Hope this makes sense?
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Posted 24 January 2011 - 12:00 AM

Dot, I hadn't really checked statuses very often before. I'll have to try to remember to do that from now on!

I'm glad you're having fun with this tut. Like I said, it's one of my favorites.

If these directions were more clear, I can update the tutorial in the University with these. What do you think?

Dot, I do think the type needs to be rasterized before you can do things this way. Raster images are pixel images. Normal type images are vectors, meaning they're created with "outlines" more than pixels that fill in the space. The program can't create a break in a vector image without redrawing the vector, and that usually requires the Pen Tool (or its assorted paraphernalia). Pixels are easy to move around though. :)

When I do this kind of detail work, I always look at things in 100% mode (probably using your technique from now on, Dot!). At 100%, you can see the "true" image and not the generated, not-necessarily-true-to-life-image-that-the-program-creates-to-fit-in-your-screen. You can see what layer styles (shadows included!), actual pixels, etc. will look like this way. So what may have happened with your layout, Dot, is things didn't look one way but actually did move, but you just couldn't tell based on your zoom level.

Just some thoughts!
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