Printing of layouts

[terriscrapper]

I've been uploading my layouts for print....I have a question....as most of you know I've been using Brandy Murrays templates...on the photo site for printing it shows the binder being rather large and I've had to move and rearrange a lot... I did everything in the template to proportion now showing that binder line I have to move. Here is an example....I will have to move the photo on lower left side...correct? Would you advise moving it clear to left and text to right? I'm kind of frustrated because if I used a full page photo I had to re-size it or the binder would take out a person's arm, or half a head. I'm tired...this is kind of rambling...sorry

[MariJ]

Hi Terri,

In my experience you need to leave about a ½ inch around the page for printing.

I just did a book so that's what I did - yes. I moved everything approx ½ in in towards center, otherwise you run the risk of something being cut off or lost in the centerfold.

[terriscrapper]

Hi Terri,

In my experience you need to leave about a ½ inch around the page for printing.

I just did a book so that's what I did - yes. I moved everything approx ½ in in towards center, otherwise you run the risk of something being cut off or lost in the centerfold.

Hi! I think I had to move in more than 1/2 in.....

[lindarobin]

This is what I do:

 

I add a matching solid color background to the Shutterfly album. Then I add my jpg page. I size it to 11.5 x 11.5 and position it in the center so that the color background looks like an outline around the page. In the final printing and trimming, all the "outline" gets trimmed off rather than your jpg's edges.

 

It may not be exact. You might end up with a tiny outline or lose just a bit of your page edges.

 

However, you still have to compensate for the binding edge, especially for a thick book. Lay-flat books are the solution, but they are expensive.

[terriscrapper]

This is what I do:

 

I add a matching solid color background to the Shutterfly album. Then I add my jpg page. I size it to 11.5 x 11.5 and position it in the center so that the color background looks like an outline around the page. In the final printing and trimming, all the "outline" gets trimmed off rather than your jpg's edges.

 

It may not be exact. You might end up with a tiny outline or lose just a bit of your page edges.

 

However, you still have to compensate for the binding edge, especially for a thick book. Lay-flat books are the solution, but they are expensive.

That sounds like a great idea! Yes, the lay flat books are pretty pricey...I've never opted for them....

[jhbren]

I've never used Shutterfly, but I've had several albums printed by MyPicTales, and they provide a template showing exactly how much space to leave for trimming and binding - and it's always worked well. You might check to see if Shutterfly has such guidelines. Good luck!

[terriscrapper]

I've never used Shutterfly, but I've had several albums printed by MyPicTales, and they provide a template showing exactly how much space to leave for trimming and binding - and it's always worked well. You might check to see if Shutterfly has such guidelines. Good luck!

No, it just has a grayed out area....I never have used Shutterfly....I've always used My Publisher.....they don't make a 12 x 12....all of their books are oblong. I love their quality.

[jhbren]

Ahh - I assumed you were using Shutterfly, but that was Lindarobin's comment. I know nothing about My Publisher, but I would think they'd provide guidelines for their clients. You might try contacting them. Hope it works well for you.

[lindarobin]

You assumed correctly, Jo. Terri has been uploading to Shutterfly for this particular project because they make 12x12 books.

http://scrapgirls.net/forum/topic/63573-another-question/#entry1163251

 

My local photobook printer also doesn't offer 12x12... yet. Their largest size is 9x12, so I would also consider Shutterfly if I wanted 12x12.

[BarbaraC1977]

On all my full page layouts, I put guidelines 0.5 " from the edge. Then I just avoid putting anything critical in that region. 1/4" on 4x6 recipe cards. Worked beautifully in my 8.5x11, 98 page book from My Publisher.

[terriscrapper]

 

This is what I do:

 

I add a matching solid color background to the Shutterfly album. Then I add my jpg page. I size it to 11.5 x 11.5 and position it in the center so that the color background looks like an outline around the page. In the final printing and trimming, all the "outline" gets trimmed off rather than your jpg's edges.

 

It may not be exact. You might end up with a tiny outline or lose just a bit of your page edges.

 

However, you still have to compensate for the binding edge, especially for a thick book. Lay-flat books are the solution, but they are expensive.

That sounds like a great idea! Yes, the lay flat books are pretty pricey...I've never opted for them....

 

Linda, once again I never had to do this....do you think putting it on solid white would work....since most of my layouts are black???

[lindarobin]

Linda, once again I never had to do this....do you think putting it on solid white would work....since most of my layouts are black???

 

If you choose white, you may end up with uneven strips of white around your pages. This will give your book a badly finished look. A little black edge may not seem as bad if the layout is predominantly black.

 

Unfortunately, I can`t predict how much Shutterfly is going to enlarge the print and then trim the edges. Personally, I would hate having any edge left because that messes with the full-bleed look I want. I would rather lose a little bit of my page. The purpose of having the safety margin around the page is to reduce the amount of loss. You don`t really want the safety margin to show up in your book.

 

Having said that, I would upload my layouts to the Shutterfly template and drag my layout to 11.8 x 11.8 size, which leaves a 0.1 inch black edge around all four sides.

[terriscrapper]

 

Linda, once again I never had to do this....do you think putting it on solid white would work....since most of my layouts are black???

 

If you choose white, you may end up with uneven strips of white around your pages. This will give your book a badly finished look. A little black edge may not seem as bad if the layout is predominantly black.

 

Unfortunately, I can`t predict how much Shutterfly is going to enlarge the print and then trim the edges. Personally, I would hate having any edge left because that messes with the full-bleed look I want. I would rather lose a little bit of my page. The purpose of having the safety margin around the page is to reduce the amount of loss. You don`t really want the safety margin to show up in your book.

 

Having said that, I would upload my layouts to the Shutterfly template and drag my layout to 11.8 x 11.8 size, which leaves a 0.1 inch black edge around all four sides.

 

Ok...I will try that!

[lindarobin]

Don't forget about the binding. You still need to edit your pages to re-position important objects about an inch away from the bound edge. Good luck! Let us know how the finished book turns out.